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I can't believe some IDIOTS believe Brent is lipsyncing

Enkeli's picture
on February 20, 2011 - 2:16am

That is just so stupid, I bet if they tried they couldn't sing half as well as Brent can.
I think they should all get a life and quit posting untrue stuff on the net, if they should accuse anyone of lipsyncing they should accuse Justin Bieber!

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Nyyanksrule28's picture

Sarafreund...you don't even qualify to comment..lol...oh I guess Brent decided to sing the one concert you went to right?..not !!!!

Nyyanksrule28's picture

Needingchristine...you obviously have no clue about this subject..yes they are amazing but it's fake...you have to sing live or don't produce songs in the studio that you can't sing live...end of story....

Nyyanksrule28's picture

150% Brent lip syncs most of his concerts..all I can figure is you people that think he sings all of his concerts are in extreme denial...my wife and I are at a point that we have to exclude shinedown from our joy of concerts...and that's not easy cause they are on a lot of our concert series...can't and will not see them again unless Brent sings live through out the concerts...

oPEEPINGTOMo's picture

Face the facts, he does lip sync. I've seen it live with my own to eyes. You can either accept / ignore it or choose to let it bother you.

It does bother me because a band that talked about being about "real music" during their live shows shouldn't lip sync to compensate. I personally enjoyed their shows considerably more before they started using this. Was "I Dare You" performed to cd recorded vocal perfection... No, but it wasn't bad by any means and at least it was real.

Alvis269's picture

Lip-syncing? Brent? I don't think I even possess the mental fortitude to acknowledge that particular argument. Most people can't sing like him. There are Shinedown songs I try to sing that are not anywhere near my range. It just means that he is a VERY talented individual. They never accused Pavarotti of that, did they?

jay r's picture

Very nicely put NeedingChristine.

NeedingChristine's picture

I am saddened by the bickering. It's not about lip-syncing, using tracks, being "fake" or whatever else you may so choose to demean Brent, Zach, Eric or Barry. These men put massive amounts of thought and energy in to making their passions the passions of others. They share a part of themselves with every note produced. Something they choose to do just as you choose to enjoy their music. If you are that disgusted then by all means please go out and do better.
In Brent's defense, not that he needs it, singing concert after concert is not an easy feat for the vocal cords. My mother is an opera singer and has an amazing voice. Sadly, the strain of repeatedly singing one opera after another destroyed her voice. She can no longer sing on stage. I have no doubt that Brent has moments where his vocal cords can only take so much repeated use. He is after all just a man and his vocal cords are not indestructible. I know if I were paying my hard earned money to experience them live I would rather hear quality vocals than hear the songs that mean so much to me butchered because his voice is under duress. Fans demand perfection and to be honest they deliver. Their shows are very powerful. They leave the comfort of their homes and the ones they love all in the hopes of giving back a small modest measure of thanks. There is more to music than banging on drums, strumming strings or spewing sentences vocally. It is not an easy feat.
Speaking your mind is an amazing tool when used correctly. Being bitter and hateful breeds condescension and who really wants that. How about saying something productive and uplifting. You would be amazed at how much it enriches your life.

AlexOliveira's picture

I don't really care about this band, I have no axe to grind, I'm not a hate. What I am is a 20 year veteran of live production, television production and studio production. Additionally, I'm a singer and musician and while I think what Brent does in the studio is amazing I am here to tell you with 100% certainty that he absolutely does not have the goods live.

I'm not happy to report this, I wish he was the real deal but he is not. There is definitely, definitely, definitely, playback on his voice. You folks need to realize that there is now technology that lets you just stop singing and the recording fades in perfectly. Many top tier artist use it...and this is absolutely what is being done here. It let the artist look live for the easy stuff and then fake the high notes.

There is exactly ZERO professionally shot videos of the band that feature close-ups of high Brent during high notes...this is called a rider, it carries instructions like this.

The real talent in this band, vocally, is the bass player, he is covering many of the higher notes.

IN the video |Shinedown - Second Chance (perform live in studio)you can see just out Brent struggles to get even a G note. That's a nothing note for tenor...and note the bass player with superior vocals.

This band writes great tunes, produces great tracks, delivers a compelling rock show but make no mistake about it, the big time fireworks vocally are absolutely bullshit.

They're just a band, don't be loyal to them, don't accept this kind of crap when you pay top dollar for concert tickets. Demand better. It exists already.

SaraFreund's picture

He doesn't lip sync I seen them for the first time last year at River Riot & I never seen him lip sync once.

AlexOliveira's picture

If you saw then yes you did.

JenniferCoupalDwyer's picture

Uh, yes he does lip sync. I just saw them live last night in Glens Falls and I was right up against the railing in front of the stage and it was VERY evident he was lip syncing. He did sing live for some parts of the songs, but definitely not all of them.

JDX123's picture

It must be new album season......all the trolls are falling out of the woodwork.

hahninator's picture

Hate to tell you non-believers here but Brent does indeed lipsynch. In 2008 when I first started seeing them he did NOT at all. I first noticed it on Carnival of Madness, where he did it on I Dare You. Then I researched and found out he was doing it on I Dare You, Diamond Eyes, Her Name Is Alice, The Crow and the Butterfly, Son of Sam and on Heroes. If you ask Brent in person he will not deny this. He has one of the best voices in rock music in my opinion and it's sad he has resorted to doing this. Bully's intro "hey" bits are sampled now and who knows about the rest of the new stuff. Watch Bully live at Jimmy Kimmel and you'll see all sorts of stuff like the other mics aren't even "on" for parts of the songs, like Diamond Eyes on Carnival of Madness (the "boom lay boom lay" backing vocals were sampled too). Sad indeed.

AlexOliveira's picture

You couldn't be more right. Sad.

oPEEPINGTOMo's picture

I've seen Shinedown live many times, and I can say that they NEVER lip synced until the Carnival of Madness which I also saw.

It was clear as day watching his mouth be off from the vocals on I Dare You, Diamond Eyes, and if I remember right Alice, I Dare You being the most obvious.

Watch the Live DVD, why do you think that video cuts to the video effects so much... probably to mask it.

I've always been a huge shinedown fan, even before they gathered all this fame, but i can say with absolute certainty that the lip sync happened in the CoM tour, the Sound of Madness tour it did not and I actually liked it better because it also didnt have all the gimmicks (top hat, cane, etc).

GabrielGill's picture

just saw them last night at the Grove in Anaheim!
Amazing!

nickusa13's picture

Its only because they are incapable of believing in any form of greatness...imagine the pityful life they lead...

AlexOliveira's picture

I know 10 people who can sing this vocal. I believe in greatness. I just don't believe in his ability to deliver this vocal on demand...he's not a pro

JDX123's picture

thread. death. firey.

Mouney's picture

It's right, on Live-shows I didn't see him lipsinging too!
But on DVD, hear to the refrain of "I dare you" or the refrain of "if you only knew" or refrain of "heroes" ....
May in Germany there is another DVD as in your country. I'm disappointed of the Rock-DVD. The Acoustic-DVD ist brilliant!!!

Rick V's picture

I cant tell ya how many times ive seen Shinedown live. Never once has he lipsynced. I have the DVD, and I dont see any obvious evidence of it. He changes up songs way too much to ever be accused of syncing.

Mouney's picture

I love Shinedown, and I love Brent Smith and his voice!
He is a great singer. And I didn't hear him lipsinging on a Live-Show here in Germany.

But on the DVD "Somewhere in the stratosphere" on Rock-concert was every second song lipsinging.
And on the Broadcast of the concert in Colone / Köln was 90 % of the concert played of CD. I was on the concert, it was live! But aferwards it was edited! I'm disappointed of the band, which I thought, it is the best Live-act ever!

stillrockin@55's picture

Anyone else think that "Bully" is lame? I just found out that it's a Shinedown tune and couldn't believe it! Anyway, Brent is one of the best singers in rock......ever.

shreddie8's picture

hell no. bully is a great song

DENOUNCED's picture

I actually don't know if the full backing track is just used only for tv performances cos i saw Shinedown the week after this show in Germany and there was definitely no lip synching or full vocal backing tracks used but no one can deny that there are backing tracks being used constantly at this gig here : http://www.wdr.de/tv/rockpalast/extra/videos/2012/0205/shinedown.jsp

But then again who cares right?? can anyone really deny that Brent has one of the best voices in rock? There is plenty of video and proof available to show that he does not need these backing tracks and they are not the only band that have ever used them in TV performances.
Some songs require a backing ttrack because they were recorded with layer upon layer of tracks and they got a bit excited in the studio. You can't always make it sound perfect live and fortunately for us Shinedown are perfectionists.

JDX123's picture

File this under threads that need to die a fiery death...

AlexOliveira's picture

Relax, real fans question.

TonyKoenig's picture

Something that people need to understand is that vocalists often use lip syncing as a tool for the parts of a song that they can't sing perfectly live. In Brent's case, I don't know if he lip syncs parts of songs. However it is very likely. Lip syncing is used when a vocalist needs help maybe.. hitting those high notes. They do it so that the song doesn't sound like crap. Smith very well may use it, but there is a good reason for it. Now this is different than lip syncing every word of every song. That would just mean he is flat out fake. But he doesn't do that. Lip syncing is not a bad thing if it is only used when absolutely necessary.

jaspersmom's picture

who hasn't lip synced who the hell cares, i dont believe he is i have seen him plenty in concert and neevr seen him skip a beat, there is no need to prove anything, i love brent and always will

dalton's picture

he is not lipsyncing i can get his cousin to prove it

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    I can't believe some IDIOTS believe Brent is lipsyncing
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    That is just so stupid, I bet if they tried they couldn't sing half as well as Brent can.
    I think they should all get a life and quit posting untrue stuff on the net, if they should accuse anyone of lipsyncing they should accuse Justin Bieber!

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