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    crazyquinn03

    nickelback doesnt deserve to share the stage with shinedown n i hate the fact that their touring together

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nah not crazy!! we all have the same "problem". You'll fit right in :twisted: :D

shinedownjunkie45

Wed, 12/09/2009 - 19:01

yup i.e. the the sig name lol.

destiny453

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 04:39

:) I like Rita's little tag, if i knew how to write songs i would be a millionaire :)

[quote="crazyquinn03"]nickelback doesnt deserve to share the stage with shinedown n i hate the fact that their touring together[/quote]

Excuse me Nickelback does not suck and when Shinedown are with NB it is on the Dark Horse tour which i believe is NB's tour so if you hate NB so much dont go but please don't slam them im sorry i'm not going to sit here and watch one of my fave bands being slammed and to say NB doesn't deserve to share the stage with Shinedown i'm sorry you are delusional Shinedown are sharing the stage with them eg support act

If you hate Nickelback thats fine hate them but dont slam them no one on the NB board slams Shinedown

I am only pitching my coins in the circle on this one. First off, I personally feel a little smarmy knowing that I used a Nickelback fan membership to buy my pre-sale tix for the show here at the Tacoma Dome on May 7th.

NB is extremely successful, Chad Kroeger is a pop rock song writing genius. That said, I just don't like most of their songs. They always catch my ear, cuz they're good, musically and very catchy.

I haven't seen them live, but trust my good friend Mollie who feels the same as I do - she said they put on a terrific show! It will be fun, I'm sure!

And, yes, it's Nickelback's tour that our boys are supporting - along with Breaking Benjamin and Sick Puppies. It's a great line up, should be good money, and more great exposure to new fans. The more the merrier, I should think.

Seether caught a raft of shit from fans for supporting Nickelback, but I think the Seether family had a good time at those shows too. Like I said, Nickelback is successful, draws a huge crowd, and we should be thanking Chad and the guys for inviting Shinedown along!

(WE ALL know who the best band is on this tour! Now, everyone else will too! How many people discovered Shinedown on the Staind tour? So many people I know fell asleep or left after Shinedown, once Staind hit the stage. What band would WANT to play AFTER Shinedown and the Reverend performed?? Huh? Anyone? Didn't think so!)

dalamar_2

Tue, 01/12/2010 - 17:33

[quote="mad_mama"](WE ALL know who the best band is on this tour! Now, everyone else will too! How many people discovered Shinedown on the Staind tour? So many people I know fell asleep or left after Shinedown, once Staind hit the stage. What band would WANT to play AFTER Shinedown and the Reverend performed?? Huh? Anyone? Didn't think so!)[/quote]

*feebly lifts his had*...

I'm new to all of this. I'm not even close to tech savvy but I LOVE both bands and if it wasn't for Nickelback I would have missed out on some great new bands. I recently learned that Halestorm is from my area here in PA. I am counting the days until Brent and the guys play for us in Bethlehem, PA[/b]

Why the hell any band would want SD opening for them is beyond me. They are better than the "headliners" every time. I left during Staind because there wasn't any energy from them. It just seemed like they were doing it because they had to...plus, yeah NB sucks

Oh wow someone else from central PA on here, awesome! Yes Halestorm is from the York area, not too far away from us. I'll be at the Bethlehem show too thurs! it should be awesome from the vids on youtube i have watched from the shows throughout this week so far.

and yes, we were very tempted to leave when Staind came on and was so flat, but i had read about Aaron Lewis's acoustic performace out in the crowd so we stayed for that and i got to be about 10 feet from him for those songs, that was the only good part of their set. Most everyone i talked to in the line to meet Halestorm afterwards said the same thing, Staind should have opened for Shinedown.

scubasunny22

Sat, 01/30/2010 - 18:25

Yeah, Nickelback is a good band. I like their songs OK. They've worked hard to build a fan base and they deserve their success.

Like everyone here, I had a chance to get the pre-sale tix for 4/3 at Boardwalk Hall. I passed it up because I just don't see going to a show where SD is not the headliner. I want the full heart-pumping, kick ass encore ending from my favorite band.

I'd go see Nickelback (well maybe not), but definitely not as a headliner for Shinedown.

AllAmericanDan1

Sat, 01/30/2010 - 23:43

I fear what the crowds are going to be like for a Shinedown show after this tour with Nickelback. NB fans are going to hear SD's music and be like "wow, there's a band like this? Than why were we listening to this crap!" Then throw "Silver Side Up" down on the ground and step on it.

Speaking of the crowds that are coming to shows these days, I have to say alot of the people i was around at the Bethlehem show knew Second Chance and If you Only Knew and that was about it. Needless to say them opening with Sound of Madness then Devour wasnt quite what they expected to hear i dont think. :P

AllAmericanDan1

Sun, 01/31/2010 - 00:45

[quote="jftino"]Speaking of the crowds that are coming to shows these days, I have to say alot of the people i was around at the Bethlehem show knew Second Chance and If you Only Knew and that was about it. Needless to say them opening with Sound of Madness then Devour wasnt quite what they expected to hear i dont think. :P[/quote]

Yeah, a lot of noobs at these shows. Compared to them I am a grizzled SD veteran.

d_eicholz

Sun, 01/31/2010 - 03:53

hahaha, that is what i figured would happen. i kinda like it. looking forward to see the reaction from the NB fans when shinedown and breaking ben come on and rock their faces off. cant wait to smash into the unsuspecting second chance, IYOK, and nickelback fan when they get caught up in a SWAG or polyamorous mosh pit. lol. is that bad?

dalamar_2

Sun, 01/31/2010 - 09:39

[quote="allamericandan1"]Yeah, a lot of noobs at these shows. Compared to them I am a grizzled SD veteran.[/quote]

Whoa, wait! You're not grizzled!?

8)

dalamar_2

Sun, 01/31/2010 - 09:48

[quote="d_eicholz"]hahaha, that is what i figured would happen. i kinda like it. looking forward to see the reaction from the NB fans when shinedown and breaking ben come on and rock their faces off. cant wait to smash into the unsuspecting second chance, IYOK, and nickelback fan when they get caught up in a SWAG or polyamorous mosh pit. lol. is that bad?[/quote]

See, now, I could be wrong, but it seemed strange to me that SD came out with IFYO and SC as singles, especially since they're both at odds with the main genre SD's been playing. I guess we're just seeing the results now, the same we saw back when Metallica came out with the Black album and 13 y/o kids came to "dance" live to Enter Sandman's and the likes they had not heard yet and couldn't fathom why we were wearing long hair, leather jackets with studs and were flying higher than jets.

Needless to say, some were... [i]disco[/i]bobulated, to say the least =)

[quote="dalamar"]
See, now, I could be wrong, but it seemed strange to me that SD came out with IFYO and SC as singles, especially since they're both at odds with the main genre SD's been playing. I guess we're just seeing the results now, the same we saw back when Metallica came out with the Black album and 13 y/o kids came to "dance" live to Enter Sandman's and the likes they had not heard yet and couldn't fathom why we were wearing long hair, leather jackets with studs and were flying higher than jets.

Needless to say, some were... [i]disco[/i]bobulated, to say the least =)[/quote]

Well you do have to say those songs did give them alot more "mass appeal" and broaden their fan base, the same as touring with NB will do. I dont know if they are the type of fans who will show up on the board here necessarily, but they do help support the band. And again i have to say, it is priceless seeing the looks on their face when something rockin comes on like Cyanide. I almost felt bad for them they looked so lost!

dalamar_2

Sun, 01/31/2010 - 12:19

[quote="jftino"]Well you do have to say those songs did give them alot more "mass appeal" and broaden their fan base, the same as touring with NB will do. I dont know if they are the type of fans who will show up on the board here necessarily, but they do help support the band. And again i have to say, it is priceless seeing the looks on their face when something rockin comes on like Cyanide. I almost felt bad for them they looked so lost![/quote]

There's no denying on that, brother! :) I'm not implying anything negative here, far from it, actually.

AllAmericanDan1

Sun, 01/31/2010 - 13:16

[quote="dalamar"][quote="allamericandan1"]Yeah, a lot of noobs at these shows. Compared to them I am a grizzled SD veteran.[/quote]

Whoa, wait! You're not grizzled!?

8)[/quote]

I dunno, does 14 SD shows make me grizzled? I thought I had to hit at least 30 before I could make that claim.

:?:

clickster_2953

Sat, 02/20/2010 - 12:42

I do not care for Nickelback at all. However, I don't think they are a bunch of non-talented pieces of crap either. lol.

classicgirl821

Fri, 02/26/2010 - 09:41

[color=darkblue]I don't have anything against Nickelback. They do have a lot of talent...the only thing is, they have a formula for songs that never wavers. It's great to get the hook and get on the radio but it does nothing for the fans. I want to hear them mix it up a bit. It just reminds me of the downfall of some other bands (at least in my mind) who just can't move on to new sounds. They're still making money though.

I do think it's quite a stretch from SD or BB or SickPuppies fans to Nickelback fans. They are not who I'm paying to see. We'll see if I even stay for their set. What a letdown after the killer rock that will come before them.[/color]

Not new here, but I mostly lurk. It doesn't matter which band you follow, there's always going to be haters of other bands that you enjoy and you just have to be the bigger person and not get caught up in their sh*t.

I'm a long-time Nickelback fan and follower and I'm extremely pleased with the line-up they have going out on this tour. As an avid concert goer, I'm pushing 15-20 SD shows, 10 BB and about 15 SP over the last few years. For those that choose to leave after Shinedown is done, great. More room for those that really want to see a terrific show. They are playing some old stuff so you aren't going to hear the typical NB song. You also can't top the pyro guy that used to shoot pyro for Dimebag!

Say what you will about their music, I think there's more to a band that just the music. I think you have to look at their impact on the community as well. If you look at all the money that has been donated to various charities and causes from the sale of NB tunes, I think you'd be surprised.

Members in the NB fan club are certainly familiar with Shinedown because some of us as fans of other bands, do a fair share of promoting or recommending other bands to them on the boards. While many of them have not yet had an opportunity to see Shinedown, I think we have adequately prepared them to get out their wallets cuz they are going to want their music after they've seen them perform.

Looking forward to hopping off the cruise ship with them and hitting the NB show that night in Orlando, even though SD won't be there. I'll get to see all of them again in Michigan a month later.

Extremely grateful!

Gotta say about nickleback wether u like them or not they do put on a hell of a rock show and there sound is impeccable.They are a talented band and they definitly have concerts down to a tee

EDodgeCayman

Sat, 04/10/2010 - 10:19

I went to the London show on tuesday, and let me tell you, nickelback puts on an amazing show!! Now I realize that anyone with money can look that cool, with all the flames, fireworks and what not, but everything about them was really awesome! Don't bring your kids under 12 though, chad has a very dirty mouth :roll: lol

[quote="d_eicholz"]hahaha, that is what i figured would happen. i kinda like it. looking forward to see the reaction from the NB fans when shinedown and breaking ben come on and rock their faces off. cant wait to smash into the unsuspecting second chance, IYOK, and nickelback fan when they get caught up in a SWAG or polyamorous mosh pit. lol. is that bad?[/quote]

You are dreaming you wish that would happen be grateful Shinedown are having the opportunity to support them EG more exposure for Shinedown
I doubt SD would appreciate any of their fans bagging NB as SD have nothing but praise for them

randomsunkist17

Sat, 04/10/2010 - 13:41

You guys outta see what Eric wrote on his Twitter. Makes you wonder if he reads these posts.

"ebassprod: Ok musicians, when your band can do this, THEN you can talk shit about Nickelback."

Then he and Zach have pics of the concert. It's like O.O Whoah!

I like Nickleback as well, they've got some really good songs in my opinion. My favorite being the song Chad sang with Carlos Santana "Why Don't You and I". (Love Santana!)

It's funny because what got me hooked onto Shinedown was the song Second Chance and I heard the other songs and fell in love with the band.

i bet even if u didnt like nickleback to see them live u cannot be not impressed.there sound and everything is bang on my only complaint with them was amount of wasted time talking shinedown coulda played what a shame and sin with grin in that time slot

I do understand what you're saying. Who on these boards wouldn't want to see more Shinedown? But I think Chad's talking serves 2 purposes. NB expends a lot of energy during their show and Chad's talking is just a way for everyone to take a deep breath and prepare for the next round of songs. Secondly, a lot of the people there are only there for NB. 99.9% of them won't have an opportunity to meet the band or interract with them in a personal manner. I think Chad's chatter is just a way for him to try and get in touch with the fans. I personally think he's funny but that may just be my sense of humor. To each his own!!

Its not like Brent doesnt talk alot during Shinedown headlining shows too. I like when they do that, i think like you said it makes it seem more personal.

[quote="slh48390"]I do understand what you're saying. Who on these boards wouldn't want to see more Shinedown? But I think Chad's talking serves 2 purposes. NB expends a lot of energy during their show and Chad's talking is just a way for everyone to take a deep breath and prepare for the next round of songs. Secondly, a lot of the people there are only there for NB. 99.9% of them won't have an opportunity to meet the band or interract with them in a personal manner. I think Chad's chatter is just a way for him to try and get in touch with the fans. I personally think he's funny but that may just be my sense of humor. To each his own!![/quote]

I just saw Shinedown play in Toronto! You guys always play AN AMAZING set!! Thank you so much for playing "Simple Man." It has been years since I've seen that song! I agree! I just wish Shinedown and Breaking Benjamin would have played the whole night!! Nickelback has a great set up, but the others music mean so much more!!!

nickelback doesnt deserve to share the stage with shinedown n i hate the fact that their touring together

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I love Nickelback! Great band to see live!

true that.

Yeah, as I said, though: it's potentially possible, however unlikely

both of you are right in my opinion. i just recently heard that quote in my music marketing class. so when i read your sig randomsunkist it immediately triggered that memory i agreed with the quote when I heard but as dal pointed out man does have a tendency to be greedy. so it's right to a certain extent.

You're right on that part Dal.

Thanks for the reference.

Yup, I don't totally disagree with you (Or Kit, for that matter).

I'm just saying that, given the more-than-likely greedy nature of Man, there is a possibility a good act might get no money from sheer Scroogeness :)

[quote="dalamar"]On that note,

[quote]An artist, in giving a concert, should not demand an entrance fee but should ask the public to pay, just before leaving as much as they like. From the sum he would be able to judge what the world thinks of him - and we would have fewer mediocre concerts.[/quote]

[i][b]Randomsunkist[/b][/i], not sure I like your signature. It doesn't offend me, don't get me wrong, but, even though I respect your opinion, if it were the case, then artists would only have "commercial" on their mind instead of "unique", while creating. It is true that we do listen to "main stream" music, but it is the very diversity, the multiple choices alone that define it, thus commercial venues do not invalidate musical research: I for one would prefer paying for a bad concert, even if bad is quite subjective, than having 55 (rap) bands playing the same song for 20 years...[/quote]

The quote is by Kit Coleman if anyone is interested.

The purpose of my signature is that concerts should be as good as what we hear on the albums. It's like Shinedown, I love them because I like their music and I get much more than my money's worth seeing them live. They play their hearts out and love what they do and it shows.

Some bands sound great on the radio or on disc but their shows are blah, like there's no energy into it, they're just playing it. I give them respect for going out there and doing something that I couldn't do, but still if you want to keep fans and possibly add more, give 110% in your concerts.

And I agree, with you that I'd rather have variety of music choices than have the same thing played over and over. But still, if you're going to do music for a living, you have to be able to entertain people and you can still be creative and unique but in a way that you're going to be able to get and keep fans.

On that note,

[quote]An artist, in giving a concert, should not demand an entrance fee but should ask the public to pay, just before leaving as much as they like. From the sum he would be able to judge what the world thinks of him - and we would have fewer mediocre concerts.[/quote]

[i][b]Randomsunkist[/b][/i], not sure I like your signature. It doesn't offend me, don't get me wrong, but, even though I respect your opinion, if it were the case, then artists would only have "commercial" on their mind instead of "unique", while creating. It is true that we do listen to "main stream" music, but it is the very diversity, the multiple choices alone that define it, thus commercial venues do not invalidate musical research: I for one would prefer paying for a bad concert, even if bad is quite subjective, than having 55 (rap) bands playing the same song for 20 years...

On Zach's twitter page, it's next to the comment about 20,000 strong. It's flippin awesome. That would be the coolest crowd to surf in my opinion.

If you meant the image of Brent singing and dancing to Lady Gaga, I meant a mental image of him doing that. I highly doubt that if there were such a pic that Brent would let that out in the public, unless the guys thought it'd be a hilarious prank to pull on him.

haha, i hear what you are saying. no worries.

and i have not seen that pic!!! anyone no where i can see it?!?!?!?!?!

[quote="d_eicholz"][quote="allamericandan1"][quote="sdgirl"][quote="randomsunkist17"]You guys outta see what Eric wrote on his Twitter. Makes you wonder if he reads these posts.

"ebassprod: Ok musicians, when your band can do this, THEN you can talk shit about Nickelback."

Then he and Zach have pics of the concert. It's like O.O Whoah!

I like Nickleback as well, they've got some really good songs in my opinion. My favorite being the song Chad sang with Carlos Santana "Why Don't You and I". (Love Santana!)

It's funny because what got me hooked onto Shinedown was the song Second Chance and I heard the other songs and fell in love with the band.[/quote]

I saw Eric Tweet that and i dont think the guys would be too happy with their fans bagging out NB since they have so much respect for them[/quote]

Well, first of all, just because Eric said that doesn't mean the entire band feels the same way. They can each have their own opinions. But even if they do all feel the same way, so what? Everyone is entitled to their opinion, if people don't like Nickelback, that's fine. That's their opinion. A lot of people just plain abhor Nickelback. You can quote me record sales and this and that about them, but there's no way to keep track of those who just plain don't like them (except now the pickle has more fans than Nickelback).

I am voicing my displeasure with this band's decision to tour with Nickelback by boycotting all shows they play with them. I don't like it when they open anyway, but if it were for a band that I enjoy I would go. This speaks volumes as they are also playing with Breaking Benjamin another band I enjoy but since they both only get 45-50 minutes, it's not worth it to me. I pay to see Shinedown, not Nickelback, not Staind, not Puddle of Mudd. Shinedown's touring partners have got me in quite the tizzy lately. What ever happened to touring with the likes of Van Halen, Rob Zombie, Godsmack, Disturbed, Black Stone Cherry? Now they always seem to tour with at least one crap band.[/quote]

even though we dont feel the same about nickelback obviously, i completely agree with wat he's saying. just because eric and/or all of shinedown love nickelback it doesnt mean everyone who likes shinedown has to like nickelback. they are very different bands and to expect EVERYONE to like the both of them is ridiculous. according to wat you are all saying about eric, every shinedown fan should also love lady gaga too because brent really likes her. not everyone on here likes her and that is their opinion which they are entitled to[/quote]

I was letting people know what Eric thought on the subject. I'm fine with people having different opinions on music as I'm sure everyone here does. That's what makes everyone awesome and unique. However, that doesn't mean you have to make a thread saying NB sucks since they can get a crowd of 20,000 people or so to come to their show.

What I was trying to say with that post and what I interpret Eric saying is to show Nickelback some respect. You may not like them, but it takes a whole lot of hard work and talent to get to where Nickelback, Shinedown, or any band or artist for that matter that's popular (for the most part) to get where they are now. I respect anyone who can go out there and make a solid career in music for as long as some of these bands and artists have been around.

On a lighter note, when you said Brent liking Lady Gaga (who I like too btw), did anyone else get the image of him singing and dancing along to one of her songs. Like I got the image of him singing and dancing along to Bad Romance in a crazy Gaga-ish costume on and the rest of the guys going :shock: and then dying of laughter. Lol.

[quote="allamericandan1"][quote="sdgirl"][quote="randomsunkist17"]You guys outta see what Eric wrote on his Twitter. Makes you wonder if he reads these posts.

"ebassprod: Ok musicians, when your band can do this, THEN you can talk shit about Nickelback."

Then he and Zach have pics of the concert. It's like O.O Whoah!

I like Nickleback as well, they've got some really good songs in my opinion. My favorite being the song Chad sang with Carlos Santana "Why Don't You and I". (Love Santana!)

It's funny because what got me hooked onto Shinedown was the song Second Chance and I heard the other songs and fell in love with the band.[/quote]

I saw Eric Tweet that and i dont think the guys would be too happy with their fans bagging out NB since they have so much respect for them[/quote]

Well, first of all, just because Eric said that doesn't mean the entire band feels the same way. They can each have their own opinions. But even if they do all feel the same way, so what? Everyone is entitled to their opinion, if people don't like Nickelback, that's fine. That's their opinion. A lot of people just plain abhor Nickelback. You can quote me record sales and this and that about them, but there's no way to keep track of those who just plain don't like them (except now the pickle has more fans than Nickelback).

I am voicing my displeasure with this band's decision to tour with Nickelback by boycotting all shows they play with them. I don't like it when they open anyway, but if it were for a band that I enjoy I would go. This speaks volumes as they are also playing with Breaking Benjamin another band I enjoy but since they both only get 45-50 minutes, it's not worth it to me. I pay to see Shinedown, not Nickelback, not Staind, not Puddle of Mudd. Shinedown's touring partners have got me in quite the tizzy lately. What ever happened to touring with the likes of Van Halen, Rob Zombie, Godsmack, Disturbed, Black Stone Cherry? Now they always seem to tour with at least one crap band.[/quote]

even though we dont feel the same about nickelback obviously, i completely agree with wat he's saying. just because eric and/or all of shinedown love nickelback it doesnt mean everyone who likes shinedown has to like nickelback. they are very different bands and to expect EVERYONE to like the both of them is ridiculous. according to wat you are all saying about eric, every shinedown fan should also love lady gaga too because brent really likes her. not everyone on here likes her and that is their opinion which they are entitled to

[quote="sdgirl"][quote="d_eicholz"]hahaha, that is what i figured would happen. i kinda like it. looking forward to see the reaction from the NB fans when shinedown and breaking ben come on and rock their faces off. cant wait to smash into the unsuspecting second chance, IYOK, and nickelback fan when they get caught up in a SWAG or polyamorous mosh pit. lol. is that bad?[/quote]

You are dreaming you wish that would happen be grateful Shinedown are having the opportunity to support them EG more exposure for Shinedown
I doubt SD would appreciate any of their fans bagging NB as SD have nothing but praise for them[/quote]

sorry too be unclear but i wasn't "bagging NB". i posted the same thing u just said earlier i think in this thread and i love nickelback and cant wait to see all these bands at the same show. i also said the same thing about everyone needed to be grateful shinedown is getting the exposure because once they see shinedown live they will forever love them. i go to a lot of concerts and i was just refering to the people coming to their first real rock show after just hearing songs on pop/current radio. they come in having no idea how intense concerts can get. last time i saw shinedown one mom even brought her little kids (about 8 and 5) on to the floor. i spent a lot of skillets set trying to protect them and tried to convince her to take them further back as they were about 5 rows from the front. eventually wen puddle of mudd came on i got separated from them but later saw some people fall on top of the kids so i helped quick pick the people up and thankfully the mom finally got them out of there. wen i said i couldnt wait to bang into some NB fans i meant like the people who get pissed when someone even touches them. once was at a three days grace concert and accidentally bumped into a guy (barely) after flyleaf's set and he freaked out on me and told me to not touch him. after he turned back around me and some friends could barely keep from laughing knowing he had no idea how crazy it would get once 3DG came on.

[quote="sdgirl"][quote="randomsunkist17"]You guys outta see what Eric wrote on his Twitter. Makes you wonder if he reads these posts.

"ebassprod: Ok musicians, when your band can do this, THEN you can talk shit about Nickelback."

Then he and Zach have pics of the concert. It's like O.O Whoah!

I like Nickleback as well, they've got some really good songs in my opinion. My favorite being the song Chad sang with Carlos Santana "Why Don't You and I". (Love Santana!)

It's funny because what got me hooked onto Shinedown was the song Second Chance and I heard the other songs and fell in love with the band.[/quote]

I saw Eric Tweet that and i dont think the guys would be too happy with their fans bagging out NB since they have so much respect for them[/quote]

Well, first of all, just because Eric said that doesn't mean the entire band feels the same way. They can each have their own opinions. But even if they do all feel the same way, so what? Everyone is entitled to their opinion, if people don't like Nickelback, that's fine. That's their opinion. A lot of people just plain abhor Nickelback. You can quote me record sales and this and that about them, but there's no way to keep track of those who just plain don't like them (except now the pickle has more fans than Nickelback).

I am voicing my displeasure with this band's decision to tour with Nickelback by boycotting all shows they play with them. I don't like it when they open anyway, but if it were for a band that I enjoy I would go. This speaks volumes as they are also playing with Breaking Benjamin another band I enjoy but since they both only get 45-50 minutes, it's not worth it to me. I pay to see Shinedown, not Nickelback, not Staind, not Puddle of Mudd. Shinedown's touring partners have got me in quite the tizzy lately. What ever happened to touring with the likes of Van Halen, Rob Zombie, Godsmack, Disturbed, Black Stone Cherry? Now they always seem to tour with at least one crap band.

[quote="sdgirl"][quote="randomsunkist17"]You guys outta see what Eric wrote on his Twitter. Makes you wonder if he reads these posts.

"ebassprod: Ok musicians, when your band can do this, THEN you can talk shit about Nickelback."

Then he and Zach have pics of the concert. It's like O.O Whoah!

I like Nickleback as well, they've got some really good songs in my opinion. My favorite being the song Chad sang with Carlos Santana "Why Don't You and I". (Love Santana!)

It's funny because what got me hooked onto Shinedown was the song Second Chance and I heard the other songs and fell in love with the band.[/quote]

I saw Eric Tweet that and i dont think the guys would be too happy with their fans bagging out NB since they have so much respect for them[/quote]

Mhm, he tweeted again and he didn't seem too happy about it.

[quote="randomsunkist17"]You guys outta see what Eric wrote on his Twitter. Makes you wonder if he reads these posts.

"ebassprod: Ok musicians, when your band can do this, THEN you can talk shit about Nickelback."

Then he and Zach have pics of the concert. It's like O.O Whoah!

I like Nickleback as well, they've got some really good songs in my opinion. My favorite being the song Chad sang with Carlos Santana "Why Don't You and I". (Love Santana!)

It's funny because what got me hooked onto Shinedown was the song Second Chance and I heard the other songs and fell in love with the band.[/quote]

I saw Eric Tweet that and i dont think the guys would be too happy with their fans bagging out NB since they have so much respect for them

Shinedown and Nickelback

I just saw Shinedown play in Toronto! You guys always play AN AMAZING set!! Thank you so much for playing "Simple Man." It has been years since I've seen that song! I agree! I just wish Shinedown and Breaking Benjamin would have played the whole night!! Nickelback has a great set up, but the others music mean so much more!!!

Its not like Brent doesnt talk alot during Shinedown headlining shows too. I like when they do that, i think like you said it makes it seem more personal.

[quote="slh48390"]I do understand what you're saying. Who on these boards wouldn't want to see more Shinedown? But I think Chad's talking serves 2 purposes. NB expends a lot of energy during their show and Chad's talking is just a way for everyone to take a deep breath and prepare for the next round of songs. Secondly, a lot of the people there are only there for NB. 99.9% of them won't have an opportunity to meet the band or interract with them in a personal manner. I think Chad's chatter is just a way for him to try and get in touch with the fans. I personally think he's funny but that may just be my sense of humor. To each his own!![/quote]

I do understand what you're saying. Who on these boards wouldn't want to see more Shinedown? But I think Chad's talking serves 2 purposes. NB expends a lot of energy during their show and Chad's talking is just a way for everyone to take a deep breath and prepare for the next round of songs. Secondly, a lot of the people there are only there for NB. 99.9% of them won't have an opportunity to meet the band or interract with them in a personal manner. I think Chad's chatter is just a way for him to try and get in touch with the fans. I personally think he's funny but that may just be my sense of humor. To each his own!!

like i said

i bet even if u didnt like nickleback to see them live u cannot be not impressed.there sound and everything is bang on my only complaint with them was amount of wasted time talking shinedown coulda played what a shame and sin with grin in that time slot

You guys outta see what Eric wrote on his Twitter. Makes you wonder if he reads these posts.

"ebassprod: Ok musicians, when your band can do this, THEN you can talk shit about Nickelback."

Then he and Zach have pics of the concert. It's like O.O Whoah!

I like Nickleback as well, they've got some really good songs in my opinion. My favorite being the song Chad sang with Carlos Santana "Why Don't You and I". (Love Santana!)

It's funny because what got me hooked onto Shinedown was the song Second Chance and I heard the other songs and fell in love with the band.

[quote="d_eicholz"]hahaha, that is what i figured would happen. i kinda like it. looking forward to see the reaction from the NB fans when shinedown and breaking ben come on and rock their faces off. cant wait to smash into the unsuspecting second chance, IYOK, and nickelback fan when they get caught up in a SWAG or polyamorous mosh pit. lol. is that bad?[/quote]

You are dreaming you wish that would happen be grateful Shinedown are having the opportunity to support them EG more exposure for Shinedown
I doubt SD would appreciate any of their fans bagging NB as SD have nothing but praise for them

I went to the London show on tuesday, and let me tell you, nickelback puts on an amazing show!! Now I realize that anyone with money can look that cool, with all the flames, fireworks and what not, but everything about them was really awesome! Don't bring your kids under 12 though, chad has a very dirty mouth :roll: lol

wether u like or not

Gotta say about nickleback wether u like them or not they do put on a hell of a rock show and there sound is impeccable.They are a talented band and they definitly have concerts down to a tee

Not new here, but I mostly lurk. It doesn't matter which band you follow, there's always going to be haters of other bands that you enjoy and you just have to be the bigger person and not get caught up in their sh*t.

I'm a long-time Nickelback fan and follower and I'm extremely pleased with the line-up they have going out on this tour. As an avid concert goer, I'm pushing 15-20 SD shows, 10 BB and about 15 SP over the last few years. For those that choose to leave after Shinedown is done, great. More room for those that really want to see a terrific show. They are playing some old stuff so you aren't going to hear the typical NB song. You also can't top the pyro guy that used to shoot pyro for Dimebag!

Say what you will about their music, I think there's more to a band that just the music. I think you have to look at their impact on the community as well. If you look at all the money that has been donated to various charities and causes from the sale of NB tunes, I think you'd be surprised.

Members in the NB fan club are certainly familiar with Shinedown because some of us as fans of other bands, do a fair share of promoting or recommending other bands to them on the boards. While many of them have not yet had an opportunity to see Shinedown, I think we have adequately prepared them to get out their wallets cuz they are going to want their music after they've seen them perform.

Looking forward to hopping off the cruise ship with them and hitting the NB show that night in Orlando, even though SD won't be there. I'll get to see all of them again in Michigan a month later.

Extremely grateful!

[color=darkblue]I don't have anything against Nickelback. They do have a lot of talent...the only thing is, they have a formula for songs that never wavers. It's great to get the hook and get on the radio but it does nothing for the fans. I want to hear them mix it up a bit. It just reminds me of the downfall of some other bands (at least in my mind) who just can't move on to new sounds. They're still making money though.

I do think it's quite a stretch from SD or BB or SickPuppies fans to Nickelback fans. They are not who I'm paying to see. We'll see if I even stay for their set. What a letdown after the killer rock that will come before them.[/color]

I do not care for Nickelback at all. However, I don't think they are a bunch of non-talented pieces of crap either. lol.

[quote="dalamar"][quote="allamericandan1"]Yeah, a lot of noobs at these shows. Compared to them I am a grizzled SD veteran.[/quote]

Whoa, wait! You're not grizzled!?

8)[/quote]

I dunno, does 14 SD shows make me grizzled? I thought I had to hit at least 30 before I could make that claim.

:?:

[quote="jftino"]Well you do have to say those songs did give them alot more "mass appeal" and broaden their fan base, the same as touring with NB will do. I dont know if they are the type of fans who will show up on the board here necessarily, but they do help support the band. And again i have to say, it is priceless seeing the looks on their face when something rockin comes on like Cyanide. I almost felt bad for them they looked so lost![/quote]

There's no denying on that, brother! :) I'm not implying anything negative here, far from it, actually.

[quote="dalamar"]
See, now, I could be wrong, but it seemed strange to me that SD came out with IFYO and SC as singles, especially since they're both at odds with the main genre SD's been playing. I guess we're just seeing the results now, the same we saw back when Metallica came out with the Black album and 13 y/o kids came to "dance" live to Enter Sandman's and the likes they had not heard yet and couldn't fathom why we were wearing long hair, leather jackets with studs and were flying higher than jets.

Needless to say, some were... [i]disco[/i]bobulated, to say the least =)[/quote]

Well you do have to say those songs did give them alot more "mass appeal" and broaden their fan base, the same as touring with NB will do. I dont know if they are the type of fans who will show up on the board here necessarily, but they do help support the band. And again i have to say, it is priceless seeing the looks on their face when something rockin comes on like Cyanide. I almost felt bad for them they looked so lost!

[quote="d_eicholz"]hahaha, that is what i figured would happen. i kinda like it. looking forward to see the reaction from the NB fans when shinedown and breaking ben come on and rock their faces off. cant wait to smash into the unsuspecting second chance, IYOK, and nickelback fan when they get caught up in a SWAG or polyamorous mosh pit. lol. is that bad?[/quote]

See, now, I could be wrong, but it seemed strange to me that SD came out with IFYO and SC as singles, especially since they're both at odds with the main genre SD's been playing. I guess we're just seeing the results now, the same we saw back when Metallica came out with the Black album and 13 y/o kids came to "dance" live to Enter Sandman's and the likes they had not heard yet and couldn't fathom why we were wearing long hair, leather jackets with studs and were flying higher than jets.

Needless to say, some were... [i]disco[/i]bobulated, to say the least =)

[quote="allamericandan1"]Yeah, a lot of noobs at these shows. Compared to them I am a grizzled SD veteran.[/quote]

Whoa, wait! You're not grizzled!?

8)

hahaha, that is what i figured would happen. i kinda like it. looking forward to see the reaction from the NB fans when shinedown and breaking ben come on and rock their faces off. cant wait to smash into the unsuspecting second chance, IYOK, and nickelback fan when they get caught up in a SWAG or polyamorous mosh pit. lol. is that bad?

[quote="jftino"]Speaking of the crowds that are coming to shows these days, I have to say alot of the people i was around at the Bethlehem show knew Second Chance and If you Only Knew and that was about it. Needless to say them opening with Sound of Madness then Devour wasnt quite what they expected to hear i dont think. :P[/quote]

Yeah, a lot of noobs at these shows. Compared to them I am a grizzled SD veteran.

Speaking of the crowds that are coming to shows these days, I have to say alot of the people i was around at the Bethlehem show knew Second Chance and If you Only Knew and that was about it. Needless to say them opening with Sound of Madness then Devour wasnt quite what they expected to hear i dont think. :P

I fear what the crowds are going to be like for a Shinedown show after this tour with Nickelback. NB fans are going to hear SD's music and be like "wow, there's a band like this? Than why were we listening to this crap!" Then throw "Silver Side Up" down on the ground and step on it.

Yeah, Nickelback is a good band. I like their songs OK. They've worked hard to build a fan base and they deserve their success.

Like everyone here, I had a chance to get the pre-sale tix for 4/3 at Boardwalk Hall. I passed it up because I just don't see going to a show where SD is not the headliner. I want the full heart-pumping, kick ass encore ending from my favorite band.

I'd go see Nickelback (well maybe not), but definitely not as a headliner for Shinedown.

Oh wow someone else from central PA on here, awesome! Yes Halestorm is from the York area, not too far away from us. I'll be at the Bethlehem show too thurs! it should be awesome from the vids on youtube i have watched from the shows throughout this week so far.

and yes, we were very tempted to leave when Staind came on and was so flat, but i had read about Aaron Lewis's acoustic performace out in the crowd so we stayed for that and i got to be about 10 feet from him for those songs, that was the only good part of their set. Most everyone i talked to in the line to meet Halestorm afterwards said the same thing, Staind should have opened for Shinedown.

Why the hell any band would want SD opening for them is beyond me. They are better than the "headliners" every time. I left during Staind because there wasn't any energy from them. It just seemed like they were doing it because they had to...plus, yeah NB sucks

Shinedown and Nickelback

I'm new to all of this. I'm not even close to tech savvy but I LOVE both bands and if it wasn't for Nickelback I would have missed out on some great new bands. I recently learned that Halestorm is from my area here in PA. I am counting the days until Brent and the guys play for us in Bethlehem, PA[/b]

[quote="mad_mama"](WE ALL know who the best band is on this tour! Now, everyone else will too! How many people discovered Shinedown on the Staind tour? So many people I know fell asleep or left after Shinedown, once Staind hit the stage. What band would WANT to play AFTER Shinedown and the Reverend performed?? Huh? Anyone? Didn't think so!)[/quote]

*feebly lifts his had*...

I am only pitching my coins in the circle on this one. First off, I personally feel a little smarmy knowing that I used a Nickelback fan membership to buy my pre-sale tix for the show here at the Tacoma Dome on May 7th.

NB is extremely successful, Chad Kroeger is a pop rock song writing genius. That said, I just don't like most of their songs. They always catch my ear, cuz they're good, musically and very catchy.

I haven't seen them live, but trust my good friend Mollie who feels the same as I do - she said they put on a terrific show! It will be fun, I'm sure!

And, yes, it's Nickelback's tour that our boys are supporting - along with Breaking Benjamin and Sick Puppies. It's a great line up, should be good money, and more great exposure to new fans. The more the merrier, I should think.

Seether caught a raft of shit from fans for supporting Nickelback, but I think the Seether family had a good time at those shows too. Like I said, Nickelback is successful, draws a huge crowd, and we should be thanking Chad and the guys for inviting Shinedown along!

(WE ALL know who the best band is on this tour! Now, everyone else will too! How many people discovered Shinedown on the Staind tour? So many people I know fell asleep or left after Shinedown, once Staind hit the stage. What band would WANT to play AFTER Shinedown and the Reverend performed?? Huh? Anyone? Didn't think so!)

Re: raise ur hand if u think nickelback sux!

[quote="crazyquinn03"]nickelback doesnt deserve to share the stage with shinedown n i hate the fact that their touring together[/quote]

Excuse me Nickelback does not suck and when Shinedown are with NB it is on the Dark Horse tour which i believe is NB's tour so if you hate NB so much dont go but please don't slam them im sorry i'm not going to sit here and watch one of my fave bands being slammed and to say NB doesn't deserve to share the stage with Shinedown i'm sorry you are delusional Shinedown are sharing the stage with them eg support act

If you hate Nickelback thats fine hate them but dont slam them no one on the NB board slams Shinedown

:) I like Rita's little tag, if i knew how to write songs i would be a millionaire :)

yup i.e. the the sig name lol.

nah not crazy!! we all have the same "problem". You'll fit right in :twisted: :D

thanks everyone! i can't get enough f the latest cd! is crazy! I need some kind of therapy!..lol

welcome 2 this board babe!

[quote="destiny453"]and who are the ones who bite? :lol:[/quote]
those who bite know who they are lol.

[quote="babegrr_09"]is cool to receive such a warm welcome! thanks evryone! I feel at home![/quote]\
welcome to the family pull up a chair gather round the circle of friends in here and help yourself to the brew of your choice.

and who are the ones who bite? :lol:

no problem! that is wat we're here for. this is like our nice little get away from life. u can come here and always feel welcome and always have fun!

is cool to receive such a warm welcome! thanks evryone! I feel at home!

yeah! welcome to the family! post often, have fun, and beware of some members as a couple have been know to bite! haha, if you need anything just ask and we'll all do our best to help ya out :D

[quote="babegrr_09"]I'm a nickelback fan.. :P they introduced me to SHINEDOWN and for that I'm forever thankful![/quote]

Welcome to the boards, my friend.

I see this is post number one, so... read all the welcome messages in the past few weeks: you'll find the usual warnings, something we took from the 60's: Duck and cower...

I'm a nickelback fan.. :P they introduced me to SHINEDOWN and for that I'm forever thankful!

yup, that is brought brought on this whole thing.

aren't SD touring with Nickelback soon???

[quote="dalamar"][quote="raymond"]I dislike the dumb ass kind of hate that Nickelback recieves, generally.

Also my Dad isn't rich - he earns a regular, modest wage. But he's one hell of a man, I tells ya now.[/quote]

I'm with you, there, brother.

Quinn, I'm here because I like (most) people I get to chat with. I can make the difference between liking Ketchup and liking the guy who squaches the tomatoes...[/quote]

whatever this whole argument is stupid. lets just 4get about it. it started with an opinion and turned into a freakin battle so lets just drop it.

[quote="raymond"]I dislike the dumb ass kind of hate that Nickelback recieves, generally.

Also my Dad isn't rich - he earns a regular, modest wage. But he's one hell of a man, I tells ya now.[/quote]

amen to all that

[quote="raymond"]I dislike the dumb ass kind of hate that Nickelback recieves, generally.

Also my Dad isn't rich - he earns a regular, modest wage. But he's one hell of a man, I tells ya now.[/quote]

I'm with you, there, brother.

Quinn, I'm here because I like (most) people I get to chat with. I can make the difference between liking Ketchup and liking the guy who squaches the tomatoes...

[quote="d_eicholz"]quinn. for your sake. quit talking.[/quote]

y? i didnt say anything wrong

quinn. for your sake. quit talking.

[quote="allamericandan1"][quote="crazyquinn03"]oh and dalamar i dont need 2 accomplish anything in my life bcuz my dad is a multi millionaire and i just lay back n have him buy me all my shinedown tickets, music, t shirts, etc. bcuz thats all i need. u on the other hand go on line harassing teenagers bcuz they make 1 comment that u dont like bcuz u think ur better than every1 else but u sure as hell arent. ur probly sitting there thinking of comebacks to say all day to every person that says stuff online instead of going to work n trying to make ur pathetic life a little bit less pathetic than it is now. my family earned what we have so by u telling me i havent accomplished anything then ur probly just jealous of me and everyone else in this world bcuz u tell people negative things so it will make u feel a little bit better but then u realize that ur life sucks so u continue making rude comments to people u dont even know. if u mess with the bull, u'll get the horns :twisted:

for every1 else reading this, i dont like sayin crap like this to others but i hate ignorant people.[/quote]

I had your back man, until you posted this. Now you just come across as a baby. You have the right to post your opinion, without fear of reprimand. But to come on hear and say my dad is rich and buys me all the SD tickets I need is flat out unnecessary. Being rich or poor has nothing to do with this argument. Nickelback sucks, there is no fucking need for personal attacks (for both of you). I have discussed things with Dalamar on this board before and he has well thought out posts. Reading through your posts is a grammatical nightmare. But if you two have a disagreement about music then it stays that way, about music. Mentioning stuff like this and making other people feel bad about themselves or trying to raise yourself above others is wrong and should not be tolerated.[/quote]

i know i dont have good grammar cuz i just type how i do on facebook n stuff its just laziness

[quote="dalamar"]Well, folks. I said what I think needed to be said, but, I may have been wrong in taking this personal. Tell you the truth, I don't really care all that much for either band (yes, SD included: I like the music. I don't know the guys behind it).

So, I'll be the better man: I'll apologize, if only to avoid further posts I can't read.[/quote]

y are u on these boards if u dont care for the band!? im on here bcuz i love shinedown and every1 else here does so if u dont then y did u even join this fan club?

Well, folks. I said what I think needed to be said, but, I may have been wrong in taking this personal. Tell you the truth, I don't really care all that much for either band (yes, SD included: I like the music. I don't know the guys behind it).

So, I'll be the better man: I'll apologize, if only to avoid further posts I can't read.

I did not know we enter the Kindergarten all over again.

Serious this is no big issue and let's move on.

Both have a passion for Shinedown and leave it at that.
Not worth making other's now feel strange on here talking to each other.

Let's give an internet sorry and go forward.

Shessssh it's thanksgiving weekend so be thankful we have a great band that makes us happy and allows us all, be it what we are in this world rich or poor

Done now next subject.
If you can delete this thread then please do.

[quote="crazyquinn03"]oh and dalamar i dont need 2 accomplish anything in my life bcuz my dad is a multi millionaire and i just lay back n have him buy me all my shinedown tickets, music, t shirts, etc. bcuz thats all i need. u on the other hand go on line harassing teenagers bcuz they make 1 comment that u dont like bcuz u think ur better than every1 else but u sure as hell arent. ur probly sitting there thinking of comebacks to say all day to every person that says stuff online instead of going to work n trying to make ur pathetic life a little bit less pathetic than it is now. my family earned what we have so by u telling me i havent accomplished anything then ur probly just jealous of me and everyone else in this world bcuz u tell people negative things so it will make u feel a little bit better but then u realize that ur life sucks so u continue making rude comments to people u dont even know. if u mess with the bull, u'll get the horns :twisted:

for every1 else reading this, i dont like sayin crap like this to others but i hate ignorant people.[/quote]

I had your back man, until you posted this. Now you just come across as a baby. You have the right to post your opinion, without fear of reprimand. But to come on hear and say my dad is rich and buys me all the SD tickets I need is flat out unnecessary. Being rich or poor has nothing to do with this argument. Nickelback sucks, there is no fucking need for personal attacks (for both of you). I have discussed things with Dalamar on this board before and he has well thought out posts. Reading through your posts is a grammatical nightmare. But if you two have a disagreement about music then it stays that way, about music. Mentioning stuff like this and making other people feel bad about themselves or trying to raise yourself above others is wrong and should not be tolerated.

oh and dalamar i dont need 2 accomplish anything in my life bcuz my dad is a multi millionaire and i just lay back n have him buy me all my shinedown tickets, music, t shirts, etc. bcuz thats all i need. u on the other hand go on line harassing teenagers bcuz they make 1 comment that u dont like bcuz u think ur better than every1 else but u sure as hell arent. ur probly sitting there thinking of comebacks to say all day to every person that says stuff online instead of going to work n trying to make ur pathetic life a little bit less pathetic than it is now. my family earned what we have so by u telling me i havent accomplished anything then ur probly just jealous of me and everyone else in this world bcuz u tell people negative things so it will make u feel a little bit better but then u realize that ur life sucks so u continue making rude comments to people u dont even know. if u mess with the bull, u'll get the horns :twisted:

for every1 else reading this, i dont like sayin crap like this to others but i hate ignorant people.

[quote="allamericandan1"]Nickelback blows.

The End.[/quote]

8)

[quote="crazyquinn03"][quote="dalamar"]You're so full of shit, Quinn. so much so, I wonder even why people here waste their time reading your posts.

The fact you don't like bands does not invalidate the serious amount of talent they have. Millions upon millions have purchased Nickleback's albums and went to their shows and you dare - you, who've accomplished NOTHING - spit on them? I don't like them either, but the sheer fact others like them gives Nickleback EVERY right to be on stage, next to anyone, including SD.

Seriously, unless you have something constructive - strike that - interesting to add to these boards, keep quiet: the musical world (and ours, by extension) will be a better place for it.[/quote]

calm down. 1 idc what u think 2. its just a post so it duznt need 2 ruin ur day 3. i can say whatever i want 4. im just supportiung shinedown n its just an opinion saying i dont like nickelbacks music so u can have ur own opinion too. this is shinedown nation if ur gunna tell me to not tell what i think then u get off these boards because we r suppose to share how we feel so u seriously have problems if u think i would leave these boards. p.s. ur posts suck way more than any1 elses. have a nice day[/quote]

okay, dalamar may have been a little too upset about it but, no offense to u, i agree with him. the thing he is upset with and i agree is u didn't just say your opinion that u don't like nickelback, but said they don't deserve to be on the same stage. as dalamar said, wether u like'em or not they have put in a lot of time touring and such and have millions of fans so they can do wat ever they damn well please. this also gets shinedowns music out to many more people than if they did just another headlining run. and i know as well as anyone else who has shinedown live, once u see shinedown in concert u will fall in love with them. if this tour picks up even just 1000 more shinedown fanatics then it is worth it.

ps- i'm sure nickelback invited shinedown to open which means shinedown could have said no. but they didn't. either they like nickelback or as i just said it is a good business decision. nickelback fans would be considered mainstream rock fans and even our man barry himself classified shinedown as mainstream rock.

Nickelback blows.

The End.

[quote="dalamar"]You're so full of shit, Quinn. so much so, I wonder even why people here waste their time reading your posts.

The fact you don't like bands does not invalidate the serious amount of talent they have. Millions upon millions have purchased Nickleback's albums and went to their shows and you dare - you, who've accomplished NOTHING - spit on them? I don't like them either, but the sheer fact others like them gives Nickleback EVERY right to be on stage, next to anyone, including SD.

Seriously, unless you have something constructive - strike that - interesting to add to these boards, keep quiet: the musical world (and ours, by extension) will be a better place for it.[/quote]

calm down. 1 idc what u think 2. its just a post so it duznt need 2 ruin ur day 3. i can say whatever i want 4. im just supportiung shinedown n its just an opinion saying i dont like nickelbacks music so u can have ur own opinion too. this is shinedown nation if ur gunna tell me to not tell what i think then u get off these boards because we r suppose to share how we feel so u seriously have problems if u think i would leave these boards. p.s. ur posts suck way more than any1 elses. have a nice day

i'm not a big fan of theirs but i think some songs are ok. i got nothing against them.

i like nickelback. and cupcakes :D

You're so full of shit, Quinn. so much so, I wonder even why people here waste their time reading your posts.

The fact you don't like bands does not invalidate the serious amount of talent they have. Millions upon millions have purchased Nickleback's albums and went to their shows and you dare - you, who've accomplished NOTHING - spit on them? I don't like them either, but the sheer fact others like them gives Nickleback EVERY right to be on stage, next to anyone, including SD.

Seriously, unless you have something constructive - strike that - interesting to add to these boards, keep quiet: the musical world (and ours, by extension) will be a better place for it.